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» Treatment of Non Citizens   2002-10-31 16:17 Another Bloody Libertarian

Right...so let your own citizens have the right to free speech, blah blah blah.

But not visitors or immigrants.

Being a citizen shouldn't confer rights that you have a justifiication for taking away from others.

Otherwise this is taking it up the arse? No, regardless of what some nut thinks, even if they are allowed to spruik their nuttery around, not even the most pacifist Government would likely let them commit acts of terror...nuts having the right to free speech does not equate to sedition or mass murder.

The next bit is most important;

Holding an ideology is completely different to being an operative or finacier of a terrorist or revolutionary organisation.

Although it is most likely if one is a revolutionary or terrorist, one will have certain far out beleifs. Some of the s11 terrorists were not "true beleivers", rather alcoholics, depressed losers who thought what the hey, I'll take a motherload of Yankees with me.

"The only freedom being taken away is from those who clearly want to take it from others"

Being a libertarian, if this was the rule, I would have a right to expel or incarcerate members of most other political parties. This is repulsive.

Is it a dumb law? Well, just see if it prevents violence or overthrow of liberty, if it is even followed, or if strange people with funny ideas (e.g internationalist communists), not the even more deluded terrrorists (al Qaida) are the ones who get punished.