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>> >> "Could there be a stronger indication of the idiocy of multiculturalism" >> The problem being, if I may borrow a phrase, "there is no alternative" to
>> multiculturalism. What are you going to do - ban all immigration? Convert and
>> 're-educate' those you do let in? Get real, Strawman! It really depends on how you define 'multiculturalism'
doesn't it? Taking money from people by force, and giving it to people as a
reward for not integrating has always seemed like a silly and immoral strategy
to me. Now it seems frankly suicidal. >> Though it's not all about people from different countries or faiths. My culture
>> is radically different from, say, John Howard's, largely because of the
>> difference in age. But age isn't everything - my culture is very different to
>> goths. Or Young Liberals. Or yours (but that's age as well, old man). Of
>> course, it all depends on your definition of 'culture'. Your Bovination attempt
>> at a definition isn't too bad, I must admit. Your culture is not as
different as you (or your gothic friends) would have us believe. Wearing black
eye shadow does not make you a cultural martyr - it just means that you are
experimenting with make-up. I used to wear make-up on stage too. Surprised?
Don't be. The difference is that I recognized it for what it was: it was just
make-up. But your point is what? You seem to be saying, in a round about squishy way,
that people believe different things. Yes. But most people don't have ambitions
to mass murder civilians. >> >> "the failure of immigrants to integrate even in successive generations?" >> So in your strange little world, successful multiculturalism is when people
>> with different cultures adopt the dominant one, thus not actually having
>> multiculturalism at all? I think diversity is great. But having a section of the population that want to
murder the rest of us is a little too 'diverse' for my liking. Multicultural
nurturing of a culture that brings us second generation ethnic rape-gangs and
would-be mass murderers (there are people awaiting trial now for this) is just
stupid. It's time to stop this nurturing of incompatible cultures, and time to stop
this flirtation with disaster.
>> Disclaimer: I believe some cultures are better than others. But that belief
>> itself is a product of my own culture. >> I like to think that cultures that fail the basic tests of time will die out,
>> so there isn't really much of a problem. I don't know - the 'cultural' idea that you should take other people's belongings
by force has been around for quite a while now. And the idea that you should
kill people who refuse to worship your god (ie refuse to be enslaved by your
power bloc) has been around for a while too. Perhaps a few nukes would help those ideas 'die out'? Presumably that wouldn't
be 'really much of a problem' in your mindset? >> Except for the people currently living
>> in shitty cultures. But you can't force them to a different one, can you? They are welcome to wallow in their own squalor as far as I am concerned. I just
don't want them causing trouble here. They can cause less trouble outside the
gates. The wooden horse of multiculturalism could be the death of us all. >> That goes against Bovination tenets. There is really only one cultural tenet I am interested in: 'do not initiate
force against an individual or their property'. Islam is simply not
compatible with this.
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