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» Aboriginal Issues   2007-04-01 17:01 Strawman

Hi Richard. Thanks for writing.

>> I live in Kalgoolie WA. Over the 5 months I have been here I have been deeply
>> disturbed watching the aboriginals here struggle with booze and violent
>> behaviour due to no respect for themselves or their own families. They sit and
>> lay about in carparks and parks abusing each other everyday attracting the
>> police to interviene constantly. Its saddens me a great deal as I feel that its
>> our ansestors which is to blame for this sad affair.

Well, 'our' ancestors (assuming you are of European extraction) certainly were a pretty brutish, ignorant and violent lot. Not much different to the Aboriginals who were here before them actually. We could argue about whether the lives of Aborigines would be better or worse if Australia had never been settled by Europeans, but that's a little bit academic.

>> These people were here first and we invaded their land 

What? WE invaded their land? WE? When did you invade their land? How many Aborigines do you shoot? How much aboriginal land did you dispossess?

Me personally? I did none of these things. The sins of the fathers might be visited upon by the gods, but I don't think you qualify.

>> and took away their spirit to live in a white community where they do not
>> belong.  We treat them like scum of the earth

Well you might treat them like the scum of the earth, but I don't. I treat all races equally: with human-to-human respect. Right up to the point where they demand my money. Then I don't respect them any more.

>> and bombard them with booze and toxins to destroy their bodies and to adapt to our
>> rules and welfare.

Really? Can you give any examples where Aborigines have been forced to consume booze?

>> These people have alot to contribute to Australia

Um. Like what? Are you talking about specific cultural input, or just the basic stuff like getting a job and paying taxes instead of living off the dole?

>> if only we
>> treated them with respect and learn from their cultures instead of taking it
>> away from them in in exchange of drugs and booze to numb their pain they feel
>> towards our culture!

Are you proposing that white people pass laws forbidding Aborigines to consume alcohol? What a totally repugnant and racist suggestion. Who gave you these god-like qualities to know what is good for people, and the right to inflict it on them whether they want it or not?

>> Welfare has not helped the aboriginies it has created
>> mistrust and reduced their own opportunties to work in any trade therefore
>> leads to poverty and dependence.

Now you are talking sense. Let's make all welfare voluntary.

>> when are we going to learn not to be such
>> ignorant people!

When we respect each other's rights to make their own decisions about their bodies, their lives and their property. Then we will be less ignorant.

>> We base our lives on meritocracy givin the opportunties on our
>> merit in the education system.

You can base your life on 'merit' if you like. I respect that right. Will you respect my right to base my life on making my own choices with my own body, life and property? Then we will get on just fine.

>> We give them no merit.

Speak for yourself.

>> We judge them on their skin colour and the way they live and talk and smell.

I have the right to judge someone on whatever basis I want. Judging on skin color, lifestyle and smell might (or might not) be stupid things to judge people on, but that is every individual's right - to make their own choices, and their own judgements.

>> What gives us the right to take it away from them!

To take what away from them? I have taken nothing away from them. What have you taken from them? Whatever it is, feel free to give it back.

>> We want them to live our way, just what right do we have to do this! 

Now you are talking sense. We have no right to make them live our way. The way their want to live is entirely up to them. I have no right dictate their lifestyle, but equally no obligation to subsidize it.

>> The other day I was at a local shop and out the front in the
>> carpark was an aboriginal woman and a very small child was struggling with a
>> load of boxes and they all fell out onto the road the child was crying and
>> aboriginal woman was battling to pick everything up and keep and eye on the
>> little one. Nonone helped her not one white person even looked at her even when
>> the child began to walk towards a moving car. I did of course. But I was the
>> only one who did! Then we were both ignored, it makes me mad she is a person a
>> mother like everyone else in this community!

This reminds me of the time when I was in Moree, and an aboriginal guy wanted us to help jump start his car. I was a little suspicious - especially when he said that the problem was a stuffed alternator. I said 'then how will the car run with a broken alternator - even when it is jumped?' he replied 'it's still got a bit of kick in it'.

My brother and I got out of the car to help the guy, and our other passenger just sat in the back seat saying 'you guys are crazy'. Anyway, we started the guy's car, he thanked us and drove off.

We had no obligation to help the guy, but clearly it was a good thing to do.

But I also understand the our other passenger refusing to do so. Three generations of welfare dependence have created an attitude in some indigenous sectors that whitey owes them money. I request for help often turns into a demand for money, and people want to avoid it.

>> Free will is sacred.

Agreed. The freedom for me to control my own body, my own possessions and my own wealth. But free will also includes the freedom for an aboriginal to drink himself into a daily stupor.

>> God never forces you against your free will.

True. Only the government and other criminal bodies do that.

>> Yet doing evil not only hurts you, it also hurts others.
Are you saying that God shouldn't force anyone against their free will, but that you should? Do you have the right to force an aboriginal to stay sober? To force me to give an Aboriginal money?

Are you setting yourself up to be something greater than God?