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» Devil's advocate   2004-11-11 10:58 John Humphreys

First, I wasn't aware that there is a "libertarian ethics"... only a "libertarian political philosophy". I know that there is an objectivist ethics, but I didn't think there was a single libertarain moral philospohy.

I don't dismiss a spiritual element to existence... but I don't necessarily accept it either. I'm agnostic in the proper sense of the word (ie it's not that I haven't thought about it... it's that I've concluded that I don't know).

I'm afraid I just don't follow your logic when you seem to imply that without God there is no useful or effective moral or political structure? Are you arguing that the threat of hell is useful in keeping the idiot masses in check, so that even if God doesn't exist, we should pretend he does as a form of control over stupid people? Or are you arguing that because we have a moral instinct then God must therefore exist? Or are you arguing that a system of incentives that does not include post-life incentives can never work? I'm not being a smart-ass... I just don't follow your argument.

What stops people rejecting a moral system? Nothing. People determine their own moral philosophy. That is true whether God exists or doesn't.