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» Extingushing right-wing clap-trap   2003-01-24 21:45 Strawman

>> Free market solutions have been tried and they failed. Fire fighting started as
>> a free market system paid for by insurance companies. This proved inadequate
>> for society so the system was taken over by government.

Hmm, sounds familiar -

Free market solutions have been tried and they failed. Farming started as a free market system paid for by individuals. This proved inadequate for society so the system was taken over by government.

OK, so it got nationalized, therefore nationalization must have been the right decision.

>> While the government solution may not be perfect, the level of externalities
>> and coordination issues in fire fighting indicate that the market system will
>> be a lot worse.

Right ..

While the government solution may not be perfect, the level of externalities and coordination issues in food production indicate that the market system will be a lot worse.

Absolutely - private companies could never coordinate something as complex as planting seed, pest control, harvesting at the right time, transportation to places of processing, complex processing, transportation to points of sale, distribution and final preparation. How could a collections of separate companies plan and coordinate something so complex? How could they ensure that the right ratios of potatoes and gravy get delivered? It just couldn't be done!



That's more or less the argument they use in North Korea. I guess that argument makes a lot of sense when you are looking down at the barrel of a gun - even if you are close to starving.

>> VOR - TheVoiceOfReason

Well I haven't seen much reason in your views so far, but feel free to provide some.