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» No more Red Herrings.   2006-02-16 21:15 ABL

Oh dear Jacob - now you are confused.

A long, long, time ago, you confused strawman and I, and tried to make out that I thought I was strawman.

I got sidetracked because of the content of your post - full of gripes about sexual mores etc...but Strawman's point was that people basically want police protection from violent thugs, regardless of the rest of the social policy of the prevailing Government...

Now Jacob, if you have such a haughty intellectual framework that you allege to have, I have some questions for you.

Why is strawman's view of prostitution naive if he believes in personal responsibility and doesn't think that prostitution is inherintly wrong, based on your religious grounds?

What are these greater problems that prostitution brings - where it is legalised in the Netherlands, there is little crime related to it. What social problems do they have?

Unless your post was entirely about your gripe with strawman's definition of prostitution, then how did you come to make an entire psot about sex, with regards to law and order issues surrounding the recent violence in Sydney?

You allege that my comments are not useful. You allege that I do not have a rigid intellectual framework. How? You assume that God's law is perfect, and so should be a basis of policy. This just isn't practical and optimal for our well being. We are all better off to be free, and choose our philosophy or religion. With regards to any alleged social problems regarding promiscuity, sex, drugs etc, are you aware of the shockingly high costs of drug prohibition etc? If maximising welfare is a social policy, then policy should be judged on a cost-benefit basis.

So why should policy choices made on a cost-benefit basis be constrained by your religion, with sub optimal outcomes (even though there is a fair degree of pragmatism in the rules themselves, but not in enforcing them on society) above all others.

Again if I have no intellectual credibility, please say why in explicit, non-theological terms. I have asked the questions. No longer can you judge them by throwing up the "you're confused" red herring.