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>> To the Strawman
Hi!
>> My ask how you were raised as a child? Was your mother a house wife and your
>> father a hard working Australian? Was your father a drunk, did he beat your
>> mother and have a drugg addiction? Did you constantly have food on your table
>> or did your father lose his pay check on alcohol and gambling.
Most of my upbringing was pretty normal. We were pretty poor, but we got by.
I made a few bad decisions, and a few very good ones. We are all doing pretty
well now.
>> If you did come from a broken home or an abusive past then i pity your lack of
>> compassion for labelling the present generation of aborigines as products of
>> there own creation. Would you agree that the low socio-economic category of
>> Anglo-Australian are the 'no-gooders' of Anglo-Australia, with high rates of
>> drug abuse and domestic violence, who will only grow up to develop the habits
>> of the parents?
No, I don't think that the quality of a person has much to do with their
socioeconomic background. Being poor does not excuse assault or theft. And it
does not absolve anyone of responsibility for their actions.
>> What good is it giving a drug addict a weekly pension, when they obviously need
>> counseling and community help. The community isn't helping because people like
>> yourself are so single minded, so ungrateful, so undeducated, and so powerful
>> that this vicious cycle will be such a struggle to end.
Drug 'addicts' do not need 'community help' (which presumably includes my
obligation to give them money). They need simply to take responsibility for
their actions. If they choose to take drugs, that's up to them. It is their
choice, and their responsibility. I have no right to stop someone taking drugs.
No-one has the right to stop me from making drugs. I have no obligation to give
someone money if they choose to take drugs. No-one has an obligation to give me
money if I take drugs. It is simply an individual's choice.
>> I can assume by your view that dont have an aborignal friends, you only
>> percieve your opinoins by seeing a coloured person in the gutter, or through
>> the TV. Have you ever reached out to any of these individuals. Why you might
>> ask should you have too? Well it might give you a real interaction with the
>> people that you so obviously despise.
I have a few aboriginal relatives. Does that count?
>> Have you read 'blood on the wattle', it is a novel by an Anglo Australian
>> documenting the blooding history of White Australia and its native
>> inhabitants. The general misconception in this country is that the rape, murder
>> and exploitation of the Aboriginal people happened in a different life time.
I don't really know where you are going with this.
Are you suggesting that Aboriginal men are less likely to be perpetrators
of rape than non-Aboriginal men? Are you saying that Aboriginal men are less
likely to be murderers than non-Aboriginal men? The statistics are against you. As for exploitation, that's trickier, because exploitation means different
things to different people. To some, exploitation simply means 'use'. To others,
it refers to the initiation of force. To others, it's just the name for when
someone else is doing better than they are.
>> You speak of our 'ancestors' as the people who are responsible and that WE
>> should not be to blame. But i ask you this. What did your father do to stop
>> this destruction, or your grandfather, because Aborigines were still being
>> taken from there parents up untill 1970.
I don't know. Maybe you should take it up with them. Let me point out something
which is obvious to all intelligent people: I am not responsible for the
actions of my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, or any other of my
ancestors. I am responsible for my own actions, and only mine. Just like drug takers, wife
beaters, murders and thieves are responsible for theirs.
>> Maybe YOU were even around when this took place.
If you want to make an accusation, please do so.
>> This act was the most degrading, insulting and disastrious action
>> which was inflicted on the Aborigine people.
No, the most degrading act was inflicting three generations of welfare, on them.
>> What kind of future would you have
>> if your were taken as child, your identity defamed and yourself labelled a
>> 'second citizen'.
I don't know. But I do know that I would still be responsible for my actions.
>> Think now when the child has children of her own. Will the parent be a addicted
>> to drugs because she is lost in the world, been raped as a child and bred to be
>> a servant of 'higher society'. Because the current generation is the offspring
>> of this past, and is us that needs to act, because it is us who is responsible.
You really seem to struggle with the concept that each of us is responsible for
their own actions, and only theirs. It doesn't matter how often you bleat that
I am responsible. It won't make it true. I am not responsible for the actions
of another person.
>> Racism is the evil of humanity, we can never destroy it but we should NEVER
>> TOLERATE IT
Interesting. You don't actually say what racism is. You have claimed that I
have no Aboriginal friends. Would that make me racist? Do you accept that
someone has the right to choose their own friends, or do you think that only
some higher authority (eg the 'government') has the right to choose people's
friends for them? Do people have the right to choose friends based on the colour of their skin,
or should the government use the threat of force to stop them? Why are you so terrified of free choice and responsibility?
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