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» Ready, aim .. FIRE!   2009-07-23 11:35 Strawman

Hi Anon,

>> Strawman, you are not the type to believe any story you read. What is going on?
>> The details given on this are far too brief to give any indication as to the
>> practicality or ethicality of the action taken.

Ahh yes, The State controls the release of information, and we can't judge The State harshly because they haven't given us enough information to 'give any indication as to the practicality of ethicality of the action taken'.

This reads like publicity material for the Chinese government.

>> By the way, I find it interesting that all discussion of this incident seems to
>> ignore the injuries sustained by Police, who tried to extinguish the flames
>> with their bare hands.

Are their actions are mitigated by fact that they tried to extinguish the man who they had just immolated?

"It wasn't really murder Your Honor because I called an Ambulance after I fatally wounded him". Huh?

.. well, I would judge that person less harshly than someone who didn't call an ambulance I guess, but it would still be murder.

I am not trying jump on the cop-bashing bandwagon here for the hell of it. Usually I am total in favor of the police shooting people.

Example: About 10 years ago, a mad woman was holding up a major intersection in Melbourne (Punt Road and Bridge road I think, but I don't recall exactly) by sitting in the middle of an intersection with a bread-knife. Police tried to defuse the situation for a while and suddenly she ran at one of the (junior) officers in a car. He was trapped in the car as she came through the opposite door slashing with the knife. He shot and killed her. The lefties were up in arms.

This was quite clearly a case of self-defense. And he made the world a better place too. The Left are unable to make a distinction between these cases.

I just object to someone being shot 'because they were a danger to themselves'. I see this confused thinking with many statements that come from police spokesmen or police unions.

I recall watching one of those embedded-cop shows where they follow a patrol around with a camera. Some guy was pulled over because he was riding an unregistered little electric scooter. The cop detained him while he checked whether the scooter was registerable, and justified his actions based on the fact that he had the welfare and safety of other road users to consider.

This was a tiny electric scooter which was slower than a bicycle for goodness sakes!

The problem is that police themselves are confused about the morality of their actions. They are told to use the 'just doing my job' line as a defense for any violation, provided it is 'by the book', but then feel some confused need to justify their idiocy to the people around them on a moral basis.

Police have no understanding that their actions must be moral - not just legal.

I have a problem with that.