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well strawman, it seems that your starting to get some readership... :) though I think they think you're the Liberal government? strawman informs us: > > Remember that the only things that these people understand are force and terror. Ultimately that is what will cower them. I wonder if that's true. I'm not questioning the ability of force to cower people (though the effectiveness of threatening to kill suicide-bombers still doesn't seem obvious to me). I'm wondering if force really is the only thing that terrorists understand? It may be true that terrorists respond to incentives and that they have more than simple murder in their preference set? The U.K. is attempting to use non-violent means with the IRA, Zimbabwe was formed (and white-rule ended) when the government of the day compromised with the terrorists (freedom fighters now... but terrs back then), De Klerk eventually compromised with the well known terrorist of his day - Nelson Mandella, a compromise situation has been impossed in Serbia to deal with the terrorist group (backed by Osama) called the KLA, many people think compromise should be used in Chechnya with regards to their separatist movement, and I'm happy with the compromise reached by the Indonesians with the terrorist East Timor independence movement. It seems history is full of instances when terrorists acted rationally out of self interest, and could subsequently be dealt with or at least influenced. So, what is it about "these people" that makes them different? 24601
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