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>> >> My concern is how those asylum seekers got released without authorities even
>> >> having a clue of their potential actions - >> >> were they just chucked out, given welfare, >> >> or did they pass some kind of security check? >> >> Was that the security check with the yes/no question: "are you sure you are not
>> >> a terrorist". Or was that the one where they ring up the local despot and say
>> >> "is this person really in danger of being persecuted by you because of their
>> >> political beliefs?" >> >> Right, I thought so. >> That's not the way security is handled (or should be), even though the first
>> question was similar to what you agreed should be asked to all newcomers to
>> Australia. Seemingly as I am the most vocal proponnent/opponent of the strawman
>> regieme, I thought that you would of understood, that if under AbL's benevolent
>> rule, you wouldn't be released if you couldn't be ruled out as a
>> threat. Somehow I see my plan as tighter than the poms? So you are happy with the onus of guilt being on the asylum seekers.
That's OK with me, but I just think it is inefficient. >> >> Yes, the 'authorities' were probably incompetent. Government employees will
>> >> always be incompetent - that's why they work for the government instead of
>> >> working in the real world. >> I like to bash Government, but the Bush's were very successful in the private
>> sector. Mc Namara was the CEO of Ford. Menzies was a very good lawyer and
>> Thatcher had a PhD in chem. Strawman argument. I don't think count elected government officials as
incompetent, just the career public servants. Many politicians are highly
intelligent, motivated and skilled. Unfortunately their highest skill is
usually in getting votes. >> >> It's much easier to train a government employee to keep people outside the
>> >> walls than to train them to track down suspicious people in a population with
>> >> strong personal liberties and rights to privacy, and the right to
>> >> non-cooperation with law enforcement authorities. >> You think so? Australia didn't experience terrorism during the Olympics. I notice you didn't say the Australian officials prevented an attack
during the olympics. Of course no-one bothered to stage an attack. The issue is
if there had been an attempt, would they have prevented it. Of
course we will never know. >> Then
>> why are there 50000 or so illegals from UK, NZ and USA then? And although these
>> mad morrocans were asylum seekers, the s11 terrorists were in fact on work or
>> study visas within the US. Even if you end all movement across borders,
>> civilians and Governemnt can be hit O/S, ala Lockerbie and Nairobi.
>> Not getting involved in extraneous entanglements and arresting or blowing
>> away would be terrorists first still is my preferred option. Me too - but it's too late. The enemy is within the city walls. 30 years ago I
would have agreed with you. The 21st century solution is to deal with it on a
global basis.
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