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» Devil's advocate   2004-11-10 16:53 Jamie

"The ideas of enlightened self-interest and market equillibrium are straighforward, practical, demonstrated, and non-magical."

Indeed. I absolutely agree that rational ethics CAN be derived from the basic concept of enlightened self-interest. I even agree that many secular individuals subscribe to them and live what I would consider to generally be a blameless life. I am just demonstrating why such ethics are so obviously and continually powerless in the face of evil.

So what exactly does a rationally derived system of ethics on a personal level have to say to those who reject it, for whatever reason? We know what Sharia says. We know what the Bible says. But we neither know or care what Mr. Chomsky or whoever the appropriate secular prophet might be has to say, for is not Mr. Nietszche's offering equally relevant?