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» Sex and consent   2006-02-27 18:25 Condi

Strawman, I have delayed responding until now, as I wanted to be certain of my feelings on this. You ask me to point out who on this forum suggested otherwise - that the fact that something is a sex object does not give you the right to f##k them.

Well, you did not use those specific words, but I think it is reasonable to interpret your words in this way. You words were in the context of a discussion about date rape, and you said that women gyrating on the dance floor want sexual "attention", which you then equate with them wanting to be objectified. Indeed, you mock women by characterising their position as:

"I want men to look at me twirling around admiring me in my little mini-skirt and boob-tube, but I don't want them to regard me as a sexual object."

Then you said "Say this a few times - it's actually quite funny."

Well, it is not funny and you are wrong - I want be be noticed and regarded as a person with sexual attributes, but not as a sex OBJECT. In failing to make this distinction, it seems to me that you fail to distinguish between seeking attention - ie a desire to be noticed and regarded - and seeking to be exploited. If you did raise the sex object point as a partial excuse for date rape, then why did you introduce this point into the discussion?

  • Sex and consent -- Strawman 2006-02-28