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» Measure My IQ!   2002-10-20 10:54 Another Bloody Libertarian

Saddam - al Qaida link? Saddam probably views al Qaida much in the same way as the West does

[whilst not denying that unfortuneatley, such a link may exist, and war will be a duty for the US Government unto it's people. Australia's role is not so clear, given they could destroy Iraq alone and Bush's intentions seemingly have more to do with revenge and America's latest White Whale - since when has he cared about the UN or it's WMD policy?]

  • as a group of fanatics dangerous to his status quo

  • as an underutilised resource, like before the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

Listing possible suppliers of WMD is as long as page or so. Non Nato former owners of nuclear weapons, Cuba, NorthKorea, India, China, Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Sudan (probably a more rational choice for regieme change aiding a war on terror), funding from Saudi Arabia, the list goes on, including many other terrorist supporting States, such as Lybia, Lebanon and formerly Palestine (now in a near civil war over control of Palestine with Hamas).

At least choose a more appropriate enemy, like Sudan, where training camps still exist, and a theocracy is killing dissidents in the south, over seemingly evil and capitalist oil or assassinate heads of state and terrorists if they bomb you.

If Osama beleived the usual "fifty virgins" rant, wouldn't he have flown the planes? (although it appears that some of the hijackers were not "true" fanatics, rather alcoholics, mentally ill, severely depressed or drifters who join cults anyway) killing the top leadership of terorist cells, arresting the rest and destroying their resources on a retaliatory basis is an unbeatable plan. It only requires that in general, adventurism is not undertaken. The war in Afghanistan was a necessity to get to al Qaida.

Some people may think that my view to assassinate people is out there and dangerous, but it has the following advantages;

  • little chance of war with oppressed people whom you have no quarrel with

  • cheap

  • no more dead Aussies (or US GI's)

  • leaves the door for regieme change wide open

  • fits in with a well rounded defence plan, including a militia to make invasion untennable, powerful (not necessarily large) armoured corps, navy and airforce to make invasion impossible, police and secret service look after security and terror attacks, and a missile defense sheild that eliminates conventional methods of WMD delivery

Of course, if you do not meddle in foreign conflicts, trade with your neighbours and have such a military so there is no incentive for terrorist cells or nation states to intiiate violence - you can be the most peaceful nation in the world. Even if the Bali tragedy still occured, the recourse would be, after it was known to do so, (probably) assassinate the leadership of Jamal Islamia. Megawati would turn a blind eye.

But then we have the brewing anti Muslim sentiment. This is almost another matter of immigration and law and order, for what it's worth, ending the war on drugs could double police officers ability to patrol the streets and solve violent crimes. How we elect Governments and how and for how long they select the judiciary as well as the law itself is the real issue. Allowing concealed carry laws will also drop the crime rate.

Whist not advocating an "open border policy", the buraecratic process could be speeded up, so English wives of aussie men could come in without a 14 month delay, and asylum seekers without security concerns could be lloked after by charities. No more cost to those who do not want to pay - and the only rationale for sending them back is that they don'thave papers. But you've already assessed they are not security risks. Unfortuneately, the security risks would be kept until assessed. If they are a sccurity risk they will be arrested. If not, why not give them temporary residency? A coast guard should be set up. Picking up boatloads of piss poor people is not training for war or patrolling for foreign naval or spy vessels. A coast guard could also police for piracy and protect property rights. Anyway, an outbreak of CJD is ptentially more devestating than a terror attack to Australia.

When Muslim Australians are not fanatics, and oppose the acts of violence perpetrated by terrorists and their supporting States, the sentiment is becasue of another Australian's irrationality.


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