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» VOR & Pol Sci   2003-01-29 14:51 24601

>> But my point is not about communism - its about socialism. If you don't know the difference, you should go back and enrol is a first year polsci course at uni.

Interesting VOR that you think Nth Korea is communist. You must have a unique definition of communism.

Unless you define them as communist because they are run by a party that calls itself communist. If that's the case, then you probably believe their democratic too.

Communism calls for the withering away of the state. Communists oppose both the market and the state (which is tantamount to opposing both voluntary and coersive behaviour - but that's a different story).

The difference between the anarchists and marxist communists of the 19th century was not in their end goal - it was that anarchists didn't believe you should go via socialism, and the marxists did.

The Marxists believed that a strong 'socialist' state was necessary to get rid of the market system, and then the state would wither away and leave utopia (never defined).

The anarchists pointed out that when the state gets that much power it will be impossible for it to whither away. Hence the anarchist critique of the Soviet Union in George Orwell's Animal Farm and 1984.

We have never seen communism*, only socialism. If you don't know the difference, you should throw away your polsci books and read the communist manifesto.

* I believe we never will see communism or anarcho-syndicalism as such theories are internally inconsistant... they cannot exist as they define themselves out of existence.


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