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>> As for separating the economic surplus and fleeing a unproductive, poverty
>> stricken system of allocation, they could be separated if it was ensured that
>> they would come here if it was ensured they would either produce economic good
>> or their welfare was cared for voluntarily. And they could bring their flock of flying pigs with them too. Lets face reality: as soon as they are here others will start taking my money
and giving it to them, and as soon as they vote, they will be taking my money
and giving it to themselves. >> The whole issue of you owning shares in a nation is questionable. Do you
>> beleive you are a "stakeholder"? Yes (stop laughing, I'm serious :). I have the same voting power as anyone else
in the gerymandered electorate I come from. The problem isn't with the government, it's with the idiots who voted for them.
They surround me. I see them in the street. I hear them in the coffee shops
saying 'the government should do something', and 'that new subsidy worked so
well for me' and 'we are such a compassionate society'. Can't live with 'em
can't shoot 'em! It pisses me off! In a democracy I get the government that they deserve. >> Don't pick on frog politicians, Basistat was a member of the assembly. >> The issue of open borders and doling out taxes, even in a social democracy can
>> be brought down to reforming and limiting welfare, then deregulating the labour
>> market and immigration. It would still be semi socialist as we are "working
>> towards capitalism". Right, like the Chinese spent all that time "working towards communism" :) Is it going to happen faster or more efficiently with uneducated unskilled
migrants flooding into the country and being given voting shares? [Hint: no]. >> ".. oh that's right - it's only compassion when you give away other people's
>> property." - of course, how can we possibly give to the poor without Government
>> intervention? Well, sorry, I gave at the office (in the form of income tax), and I'm just
fresh out of handouts right now.
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