S: I don't really understand your point. Are you saying that libertarianism is superior to democracy (which results in semi-statism)? This is true, but if you are in favor of the establishment of a non-democratic libertarian government then we have little in common. I will suggest that such an experiment would go in the direction of Soviet Union, Republic of Cuba, The Peoples Republic of China, Democratic People's Republic of Korea ..
My point was it was funny to see a self-professed Libertarian arguing for MORE democracy rather than LESS.
In my view, a Libertarian government is a contradiction in terms. And the examples you give don't seem to make any sense.
S: I disagree. Their veto power is entirely justified - the UN can draw up whatever silly rules they like - however 'democratic', 'undemocratic', or 'unjustified'. Just as I can set up a 'Club for Pseudo-Libertarians' and make whatever silly rules I want.
Why is it justified? Why should the winners of WWII have ultimate power over other states/people?
And please go ahead with your club, if you wish, no-one is stopping you.
S:An even worse idea. Suffering the democratic whims of people in these countries would be nearly as bad suffering under their dictatorships.
Whoa. Weren't you the one arguing for MORE democracy?
S: I think what you are saying as that a world government which was a democracy would be a total disaster. Third world inhabitants would just vote themselves first world assets, and the world economy would collapse. Most people in the world do not understand the conditions required for wealth to be created - that's one of the main reasons why most of them are poor.
Please enlighten me as to the conditions. Is it the having of assets (since that is what you are worried about)?
S: My main objection to the UN is that people call it 'democratic' when it is clearly not even that. A majority of dictatorships does not constitute a democracy.
I'm not sure anyone thinks of the UN as democratic, but if they do, I agree that they are wrong. I'm still wondering why you, as a Libertarian, don't consider any government, even a democracy, as dictatorial.